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ky's avatar

this is so wonderfully written! such a good take on the topic ❤️

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Untangled Knots's avatar

I came to Tokyo in 2008 and fell in love with life here because there were SO many local businesses as the local businesses were a place where people could choose what community they wanted to belong to. Cafes were more social and could survive on far fewer customers and people were more eager to talk to each other

The biggest changed I noticed was around the iPhone 4 or 5 when the cameras started getting better and social media started filling up with people taking pictures of every place they went. Everyone became a tourist everywhere they went.

Now there are still local businesses and cafes but far fewer of them and less of them serve as a community. They are all trying to be the hype shop that gets popular on the internet because their chances of survival are much smaller if they don’t generate some hype. The chairs have become much less comfortable and many places have a one hour limit.

I spent a long time blaming capitalism but the more I see, the more I feel it’s a lack of agency. Corporations and governments are just taking advantage of our own unwillingness to lead our own lives. People supporting big and famous and not local, people caring about national elections more than local ones, and maybe most importantly, how we all support the higher education mafia that locks us into the system instead of pursuing real skills that allow us to be our own boss.

People want a top down approach and a top down approach will always lead to us feeling disenfranchised.

The solution is you, creating a sense of community where none exists. It’s that couple that started a business despite all their friends warning them it’s too risky and being smart and original about it. It’s the people who care more about local and independent artists than Taylor Swift, and who favor contractions over hype.

Ok ok this needs its own article now 😆 thank you for giving me something to write about

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andrea claire's avatar

this was so beautifully written! thank you for this! tell me when you do write an essay about it. i’d be happy to read 🤍.

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Untangled Knots's avatar

😭 it turned into 4 pages, I wasn’t ready for this today 😝 I will have to do some editing, too many tangential ideas worth exploring together

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sariah!!'s avatar

beautifully written and incredibly accurate!! <3

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andrea claire's avatar

thank you for reading, sariah! <3

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Gala's avatar

so well-written and such good takes! we do live in a dystopic world and it's so hard to find community :( we don't value it as much as we used to

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andrea claire's avatar

there's still some hope to community! all we need to do is to really immerse ourselves in the realities of where we live in.

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Maggie Shay's avatar

thank you for providing actionable ideas to work towards third spaces back! I've been so frustrated by the lack of third spaces so it's very refreshing to have something to work on❤️

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hector's avatar

Your mention about dropping by a local cafe really made me stop and think for a while. It feels as though so many cafes are trying to be the next viral spot with throngs of customers just waiting to take the perfect snapshot of the next trendy food item, and it can feel difficult to walk in even after your mental preparation (as an introvert) of starting small talk with the barista.

But then again, I guess that’s also why when the time comes when you do actually engage with someone in a meaningful, albeit short conversation, it feels extra special.

Thank you for this :) ✨

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andrea claire's avatar

you are welcome, hector! i’m glad my piece was able to have this effect on you. 🥹🤍

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Sophie Willow's avatar

Such an interesting read, thank you!

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andrea claire's avatar

you are welcome!

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asi ʚїɞ's avatar

YES i fully agree and appreciate all of this!

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andrea claire's avatar

i’m glad u resonated with it! 🤍

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Isabella's avatar

Jeff Buckley fan!!!!

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andrea claire's avatar

YES! we love jeff buckley on this account! 🤍

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Srinidhi Nagarajan's avatar

what a powerful reminder that sometimes, taking the extra effort to go and order coffee from a live, in-person barista, complimenting them or asking them about their day, can be an immensely fulfilling experience in comparison to pressing buttons on the starbucks app. this post inspired me to go seek out third spaces to a greater extent, thank you andi <3

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andrea claire's avatar

you are welcome! i am glad this piece left a mark on you. <3

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elma's avatar

this is honestly so real. i spend so much time with my friends online and i barely see them in person! we’ve all got commitments that take up so much of our time so talking online’s easier (which is honestly a bit depressing that it’s replaced irl meetups) but i also find that there’s a lack of places to go so we just walk around aimlessly or do the same activities. we need more third spaces!

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andrea claire's avatar

yes, hear hear! thank you for this take 🤍.

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Zoya's avatar

(Love love love Jeff Buckley!) Great post btw <3 just subscribed :-)

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andrea claire's avatar

Omg yay! Thank you! 🤍

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Kayla Adella's avatar

Such an important topic and very well put together essay ! ❤️❤️❤️ ive lived most my life in jakarta, indonesia, and the lack of third places is quite depressing 😭 so im with u on this 100%

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andrea claire's avatar

you're a cousin to me now (i'm filipino hahaha). i'm hoping and praying that despite third places lacking there, you'd still be able to find your community <3.

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andrea claire's avatar

the parameters within the topic really is wide in a general aspect. still, thank you for sharing the circumstances you are in now when it comes to finding third places around you!

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andrea claire's avatar

yayy!

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